• MarkSoFla

    I find it interesting how rarely it is mentioned that the Tannaim and Amoraim looked for a minyan to daven with. Seems like they davened alone or in small groups rather often.

    And the description of how they may have davened is much like the “YU quickie” style, when you wake up late after a late night of studying and need to get to shiur on time. Brachos, Baruch Sheamar, Yishtabach, Shema, Shmona Esrei, bang bang bang done! :-)

  • MarkSoFla

    If a tailors needle connected to his clothes being carried that way on shabbat is not d’oraisa but *IS* d’rabbanan (because it’s not the usual way to carry a needle), wouldn’t it similarly be true that carrying a “shabbos key” in a tie clip or in a belt buckle (not the usual way) is also forbidden d’rabbanan?

    • http://finkorswim.com E. Fink

      Yes.

      • MarkSoFla

        And yet … yet … it is (certainly was*) so common in places like Boro Park and Flatbush.

        * maybe “was” because push button combination locks have become popular nowadays and keys aren’t necessary anymore.

        • http://finkorswim.com E. Fink

          That would be a drabanan (of carrying the wrong way) in a drabanan area (karmalis) so it would be okay for a tzorech.

          • MarkSoFla

            Are the streets of Brooklyn considered a Karmelit? I suppose that’s why an eruv is acceptable.

          • http://finkorswim.com E. Fink

            That’s the whole argument! Whether Ocean Parkway is a karmelis or reshus harabim!

          • MarkSoFla

            Yes, we’ve had LONG discussions about that in various places (twitter, FB, etc).

            But the question is about the rest of the streets, the smaller ones that you would typically walk on when going from home to shul and back. If someone holds that Ocean Parkway is a reshut harabim, they certainly would not enter it on shabbat due to it being a clear d’oraita!

          • http://finkorswim.com E. Fink

            I don’t think anyone disagrees that one can make a small eruv in Brookyln.

  • MarkSoFla

    I am amazed that the two “proofs”/answers regarding what can be carried on the body on [erev] shabbat are a pouch to catch seminal emissions and tefillin!!!

    I also question the whole seminal emission issue to begin with, certainly during the daytime. I wonder if there are diseases that cause unprovoked emissions, or perhaps emissions of fluid that may appear to be semen but isn’t.

    • http://finkorswim.com E. Fink

      I imagine there were some diseases that are no longer extant today that caused this.